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    If you had the guts for M-19's

    and you didn't have a cabinet, what would you do for the bass section? The original 19, the 825, 3577A, 816...
    Size is unimportant. It doesn't have to be an original Altec. I am just wondering what to do and what you would.

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    I would see if you could get permission from GM to build a model similar to Westend's...... If you look at the build, and there is a thread somewhere???? It is very impressive!!!!! I hope someday to hear them....

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    If the design has been posted on-line and for personal use, then it's available to everybody and since I'm a big fan of MLTLs, a large one of at least Vb = Vas/1.44 and preferably Vb = Vas, Fb = Fs at least 30" wide to allow for plenty of tuning flexibility works for me. Of course if there's not enough room gain, then power handling will suffer in the octave above Fb.

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    Hmm, don't recall if his was ever published, so if not, then it's up to Westend.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    I love bass horns but they are not practical. build a pair of 19 cabs...

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    GM, I just saw the pictures and the dimensions on a site, and it was a beautiful design... If I was copying a design of someone's, I would certainly want to ask them for permission, out of respect, and as a show of gratitude.... In a situation like this

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    As large and as open as possible.

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by robertbartsch View Post
    I love bass horns but they are not practical. build a pair of 19 cabs...
    Practicality is relative.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    With no regards to the golden rule, maybe something like;
    23.5"x18.5"x46.5" inside dimensions = 11.70 cu. ft minus the volume of the horn if you want to mount it inside the box.
    23.5"x18.5"x40.5" inside dimensions = 10.19 cu. ft if you wanted to put the horn on top of the box.
    I think that the front and back panels should use a 1/4" dado into the sides, top, and bottom panels as well as all of those panels to each other.

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    If you had the guts for M-19's
    I'd sell them as i have multiple times before.

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by GM View Post
    If the design has been posted on-line and for personal use, then it's available to everybody and since I'm a big fan of MLTLs, a large one of at least Vb = Vas/1.44 and preferably Vb = Vas, Fb = Fs at least 30" wide to allow for plenty of tuning flexibility works for me. Of course if there's not enough room gain, then power handling will suffer in the octave above Fb.

    GM

    Hmm, don't recall if his was ever published, so if not, then it's up to Westend.
    Yeah, and I'm still enjoying the speakers! Thanks again, GM! Here's the build thread:GM's MLTL for Model 19 drivers

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